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damkel · Feb 18, 2011, 09:25 PM // 21:25

Hi guys. Due to the change in functionality of By Urals Hammer, killing the raptor boss during raptor farming has been made a little trickier.

This is the best I could come up with. Anyone have any suggestions?

EDIT: I've also tried Sneak Attack and Price of Failure (instead of PI and Finish Him) but does not work well

ricocheting · Feb 18, 2011, 11:06 PM // 23:06

I can't take credit, it was someone else in Rata Sum who gave me the idea.

Cast a 2nd MoP on second different raptor right at the end while Wary Stance is up. Wary Stance will protect you from being interrupted and MoP should be coming off cooldown just about the time you're ready for it. Two MoP going off will easily kill the boss even if you missed rounding up all of them.

Kaida the Heartless · Feb 20, 2011, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Whirling Attack doesn't get interupted?

Mr. Blarx · Feb 22, 2011, 09:09 AM // 09:09

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Originally Posted by Kaida the Heartless

Whirling Attack doesn't get interupted?

Apparantly not. I just tried this and I'm hitting myself on the head as to why I never thought of 2 MoP's before. Thx for the tip!

Die Rekoff, die!

aspi · Feb 22, 2011, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Got the same tip from an alliance mate and it works pretty good. I don't even have to agro all of them to get rekoff to die

myths of fury · Feb 25, 2011, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Another thing. This is a riskier run, but if you aggro the cave counterclockwise (instead of clockwise) you end up at the begining of the cave at the end, you can then aggro the raptors just outside. Takes 4-5 more sec, but you kill 1 more group and maybe thatll be enough dmg to kill Rekoff. I know I used to do this sometimes when BuH was still useable, will need to check.

Also, I never used finish him, never had to to kill the boss. Maybe I'll look at that as well.

DRGN · Mar 12, 2011, 07:47 PM // 19:47

If you take a Rit hero with 16/15 and cast Splinter with the paragon's shouts, it lasts long enough and can typically let you kill Rekoff after Finish Him(once in a while you don't even need that) and Pain Inverter is almost always enough even if you balled horribly. Splinter being armor-ignoring physical damage helps since a lot since it triggers MoP. I use the OP's build except with Wary Stance instead of Dolyak, since the Paragon's "Stand Your Ground!" works fine.

Inferno Link · Mar 13, 2011, 03:19 PM // 15:19

My whirling attack keeps on getting interrupted when i do this lol

go cubs · Mar 13, 2011, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by Inferno Link

My whirling attack keeps on getting interrupted when i do this lol

Same here, any ideas?

X morzan the fearless X · Mar 14, 2011, 06:48 PM // 18:48

okay so, i've been using the tactic of putting up a second MoP during wary stance, and it works, and kills the boss.

but sometimes( actually quite a lot...) when i use ww attack (i'm 100% sure it's charged) it just doesn't do anything, the skill recharges, and i lose all adrenaline, and die (obviously), does anyone know what i'm doing wrong?

this is my routine: (get IMS up from para hero and flag him back) MoP a raptor, round em all up then i hit: dolyak signet, endure pain, 100b, protector's defense, shield stance, wary stace immediately followed by MoP on another raptor, then WW attack once i can.

ign: digital mystikz, should you need it for whatever reason

Inferno Link · Mar 14, 2011, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Originally Posted by X morzan the fearless X

okay so, i've been using the tactic of putting up a second MoP during wary stance, and it works, and kills the boss.

but sometimes( actually quite a lot...) when i use ww attack (i'm 100% sure it's charged) it just doesn't do anything, the skill recharges, and i lose all adrenaline, and die (obviously), does anyone know what i'm doing wrong?

this is my routine: (get IMS up from para hero and flag him back) MoP a raptor, round em all up then i hit: dolyak signet, endure pain, 100b, protector's defense, shield stance, wary stace immediately followed by MoP on another raptor, then WW attack once i can.

ign: digital mystikz, should you need it for whatever reason

We have all had this problem ;S. Wary stance will only protect your MoP so your WW attack is prone to getting interrupted...

Can anyone help us out?

Chocolate_Prayers · Mar 15, 2011, 02:31 AM // 02:31

I've just been getting into raptor farming and must say I haven't had the problem of getting interrupted while using whirling attack..

The bar I use: OQQUc2IR16RWCpFqM9F5F6F7g4FA

Basically you'll want to use mark of pain while under Wary Stance, then activate Shield Stance and use your Whirling attack.

Xx_Sorin_xX · Mar 15, 2011, 03:00 AM // 03:00

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Originally Posted by Chocolate_Prayers

I've just been getting into raptor farming and must say I haven't had the problem of getting interrupted while using whirling attack..

The bar I use: OQQUc2IR16RWCpFqM9F5F6F7g4FA

Basically you'll want to use mark of pain while under Wary Stance, then activate Shield Stance and use your Whirling attack.

This is what I have been doing as well and it works most of the time. With the 75% chance of blocking the attacks, you just have to hope that in the time you use Whirlwind Attack one of the attacks that get through is not distrupting stab.

You can of course use shield stance to cast Mark of Pain and then use wary for Whirlwing Attack that way you can at least always kill some raptors. But in my experience if the broodmother doesn't die, you will die quite quickly (also I'm not sure how the energy for this is. It should be fine with the asura bonus on).

afya · Mar 16, 2011, 09:49 PM // 21:49

WW get rupted at about 6% probability. And you either kill all or kill none, so FH is now redundant and there is one extra slot. Mental block before 1st MoP could be a good choice to further lower the rate of being rupted down to 3%, but have to make sure you get some hit on the way to reapply it. It is troublesome tho, haha.

Coney · Apr 24, 2011, 07:28 PM // 19:28

This is what I've been using:
[build=OQQUc44R1KRWCpFqMja5i9F5F7gA]
Tact 4+1, Str 7+1+1, Sword 10+3, Curses 12

94% of the time you should kill them all (per raptor, so slightly less?), 6% of the time you kill all but boss ([1-.75]^2). I'm thinking you might be able to bypass using a 2nd MoP or EBSoH, and simply use [finish him] on the boss afterwards? Might try that, should be 100% (with 1 extra slot, hmm...).

EDIT: This one seems to work, and you can still 2x MoP:
[build=OQQUc4oQ3qRWCqM6F9F5F7g2k3gA]
Tact 6+1+1 (or 6+1+2

, Sword 11+3, Curses 12

Paragon runner as usual with shout buffs. At entrance to cave, mark a raptor with 1, then tab to next raptor. Ball them all up, then 2,3 and 1 on next raptor. 4,5 as they get closer (3 wears out), then 6. If boss still alive, 7 him, move away, then 8 over and over. I tested with a single MoP and pulling only 32 of 33 raptors, and it took 4 necrosis (2 YMLaD) for the boss to drop...

Huiboo · Apr 25, 2011, 06:32 AM // 06:32

Not sure if im the first one to come up with this idea, but why dont use "On your Knees!" to have 2x Wary Stance to be 100% immune to interrupts?

Thats the build i came up with:
OQQUcyYSxqSqMpF9F5FWC2kKO7gA

Worked really good so far and unlike most other builds you got zero chance your MoP or WWA gets interrupted.

Usage is as following:
After aggroing all raptors use 1,2,3,4 and 5(secound MoP), than 6,7 and 4 again - wait for adrenalind - 8.

Coney · Apr 25, 2011, 07:14 AM // 07:14

There's always that problem where MoP is on a MOB that somehow doesn't affect boss (behind?). That happened to me all the time, over a year ago - boss alive, yet I marked first raptor with MoP, and balled @ boss well within 30 seconds...

I think my build is more bullet proof.

Huiboo · Apr 25, 2011, 08:59 AM // 08:59

Id say maybe its more fool proof but sure not more bullet proof...
If you know how to pull them right (look at my screenshot) both MoPed raptors are adjencent to rekoff EVERY TIME - no luck involved.
While on the other hand ur build needs to get lucky to get the 2nd MoP through and if it doesnt u need another 20 secounds to kill rekoff? thats just not time effective at all.

If you are new to this farm and didnt quite figure out how to pull, use your build.
If you want a solid build that works every run, use mine.

A small tipp:
Dont TAB to another raptor just before you use the 2nd MoP but do it right after you hexed the first one.
Using both MoPs on the 2 raptors you aggroed first makes sure they are behind you in the ball, just like rekoff is after you pulled her along the wall on your right.

Coney · Apr 25, 2011, 09:08 AM // 09:08

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Originally Posted by Huiboo

If you are new to this farm

Me, and a brilliant one (who knows his name? He came up with the paragon runner) developed the W/N MoP build, eons ago.

My latest build has 2 slots free (YMLaD/necrosis), and allows for the "latest BKM" 2 MoP casts. And the only problem, is that one of the MoP's doesn't affect the boss/somehow gets interrupted. Your build only guarantees MoP /WW gets cast - but what if the boss still lives? My build *GUARANTEES* the boss can be killed through multiple [necrosis] casts. Yours *DOESN'T*. I.E. bulletproof.

EDIT: when I run this, I *almost* never die, and *almost* never have to use the extra 2 slots (YMLaD/necrosis). But, I prefer to have them as an option, rather than death/rerun...

EDIT' - http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ghlight=raptor

Huiboo · Apr 25, 2011, 09:34 AM // 09:34

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Originally Posted by Coney

Your build only guarantees MoP /WW gets cast - but what if the boss still lives?

It just never happens if you pull right!
If you make sure that both MoPed Raptors are adjencent to Rekoff (which can be done by linig them up behind you next to the wall), she always gets affected by both MoPs and always dies.

I did it hundrets of times with both warrior an Derv with 2 MoPs and Rekoff never survived, its not luck based - killing rekoff with 96% of the times still is.
Sure, with YmlaD/Necro you can still kill her but imo its just not worth the time it takes.